MSI PRESTIGE 16 A12UD-219XES 16" QHD PLUS INTEL CORE I7-1260P 2.1GHZ / NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3050 TI LAPTOP / 32GB RAM / 1TB SSD

Tori

05.03.2024

I Have returned mine. Way Too noisy, flimsy despite the 'magliminium' Ultra Bright screen : barely usable for productivity even inside home if any direct light. Windows effects didn't use the AI chip at all. Meteor lake seems..... I had hoped,  Intel  tried optimize like video decoder on low power chip and. in the end it's not there at all. Maybe the GPU is any good, idk, I don't use that. Overall, an unfinished product from both MSI and Intel.

ArsLoginName

05.01.2024

Oh and I almost forgot, when comparing battery life this MSI laptop looks impressive with 1100 minutes of Wi-Fi time from a 99.9 Whr battery = 11.01 min/Whr. The 7840U in either the HP 845 G10 has a tested Wi-Fi time of 779 min from a much smaller 51 Whr battery = 15.27 min/Whr. AMD is 38.7% more efficient.

ArsLoginName

05.01.2024

Come on Allen, this is obviously a biased piece of reporting on the processor performance compared to both 13700H and AMD 7840U. You can run HWInfo and report on the power consumption during these tests. It's free and easy to use. 1 - This new Core Ultra 7 155H processor turbos to 100 W for a few seconds before setting to what power consumption? If it is as in the stress test, that would be 44 W. 2 - If it is running CB R15/R23 at 44 W, then how can you make the statement of "Our Core Ultra 7 155H holds a comfortable 20 to 25 percent lead over the Core i7-1360P and AMD's fastest Zen 4 U-series option the Ryzen 7 7840U" when the Core Ultra 7 155H is only 18.9% faster (2289 CB R15/1925 CB R15) than the 7840U running at 25 W in the HP EliteBook 845 G10. Less than 20% faster for 76% more power. That is being biased and hiding the truth. Those 2 power consumptions (44 W and 25 W) aren't even in the same processor classes. 3 - Further, comparing this new Core Ultra 7 155H to the 13700H in the Dell Inspiron Plus 16 which has a boost to 89 W and a long term power consumption of 50 W under the stress test implies the new processor is only consuming 12% less power (6 W total) with an 11.7% gain in performance (2289 CB R15 pts/2049 CB R15 pts). Where is the 20-25% you are referring to?

Hotz

01.01.2024

Quote from: Sharath Naik on January 01, 2024, 10:55:33 Quote from: Sharath Naik on January 01, 2024, 10:55:33 I made similar observations, in that the same frequency on LPDDR5 improves nothing over DDR5. However I've been told there is no (Notebook-) SODIMM DDR5 RAM higher than 5600. Every such RAM claiming a speed of 6400 is only "overclockable up to this point", but not set at this point by default. Which is a bummer. Furthermore it also depends on the BIOS if you can overlock it or not (which is not guaranteed at all with notebooks). Thus a soldered LPDDR5 with 7000-8000 by default could achieve significantly higher performance than current DDR5 modules. But I don't get why mainboards support LPDDR5 with 7000+ Mhz, but not support SODIMM DDR5 RAM with the same speed...???

Sharath Naik

01.01.2024

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 11:32:27 Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 11:32:27 DDR5 at the same freq is much faster than lpddr5. as I said these are not related to each other in any way. You can look up IGPU scores when using DDR5 vs LPDDR5 as the same freq. Getting a 6400 ddr5 is the best way to go. AMD IGPUs benefit a lot from this.

mixed bag

31.12.2023

I'll buy the MSI prestige ai 16 IPS ( no PWM eye strain). It looks great. My major concern is all that software pre install : MSI center, MSI optimization, continuous id...  Can it  removed flawlessly ? Then minor concerns are disappointing  webcam (2mp but ir and AI could help a lot), Fan noise (when tasks like compiling), glaring screen ( could use a filter ?), lefty and spongy trackpad ( maybe not so big deal ..). I expect that MSI laptop will be a huge  improvement from my 3 years old zenbook overall. My usage is code,web, video call, movies & YouTube procrastinating :)

A

31.12.2023

Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 31, 2023, 05:58:44 Physical trace length limit is rapidly getting lower as frequency rises. Plus shorter traces = less crosstalk = lower power consumption = higher achievable frequency = ability to use wider bus. As an added bonus for manufacturer - easier to design and produce PCBs, less hussle with supporting all the different DIMMs in the market (especially 5600 ones that may or may not display all kinds of funky behavior). The drawback is you can't get a dirt cheap config and throw in some RAM anymore. At the same frequency* - which is not the case. "Faster" isn't just a chip metric, it's more like RAM controller metric. Make bus wider, get "faster".

Sharath Naik

31.12.2023

Quote from: A on December 30, 2023, 11:57:58 Quote from: A on December 30, 2023, 11:57:58 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 30, 2023, 01:55:58 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 30, 2023, 01:55:58 Why is shorter traces important? soldered LPDDR5 has nothing to do with DDR5 unlike the name suggests. DDR5 is significantly faster, which is even more important for an IGPU. These laptops are meant for productivity and that means user chooses the amount and speed of ram.

Starjack

30.12.2023

Quote from: shawman on December 30, 2023, 05:20:44 Quote from: shawman on December 30, 2023, 05:20:44 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 30, 2023, 01:55:58 Quote from: Sharath Naik on December 30, 2023, 01:55:58 Of course they're not for gamers, but you got to admit, even business devices are catching up bit by bit every year. With AMD yes, but Intel slowly but surely getting there. I might think manufacturers are trying to save cost on changing the motherboard design. By having one that would handle a processor chip with GPU chip or just the processor chip alone in either case. RAM slots may or may not be available depending on the requirements. Not to mention, laptops these days are getting slimmer and lighter without things like CD driver, HDD driver, VGA and Ethernet ports.